The three "R's" - we need a rebrand.

We have just been having a debate in the office about the pronunciation of the word "liquorice" (Don't ask).  It appears that there is only me that pronounces the "ice" at the end of the word, the rest of the guys here at Ralli, say "ish".  I've never heard anything like it.  I've asked a couple of posh people, they say "ish" as well!!!  It's ridiculous.  It ends "ice" - not "ish". 

That of course, got me thinking about my pet hate of the moment (I have several, but this is my favourite at the moment) - spelling, grammar and punctuation.  Now, I had a very basic secondary school education and during the times when I wasn't standing outside the head's door for having put bubble gum in Nicholas Dransfield's hair, I was actually concentrating in English as it was one of my favourite subjects.  (I only ever got up to mischief during maths, getting the cane was preferable to alegebra and long division).  So, despite my secondary education, I did get some O-levels and as I say, I enjoyed English.  Everything made sense, the use of the apostrophe wasn't that confusing, I'd look forward to spelling tests, loved comprehension and precis (ask a youngster today if they know what precis is, you'll be looked at as if you're some prehistoric dinosaur!)

My favourite game at the moment, is taking photographs of signs that are grammatically incorrect and posting them on Twitter.  Yes, I need to get out a bit more, but hey.  I nearly caused a multi car collision the other day when pulling over to photograph a shop window with an advertisement for a sale of "stationary".   What on earth are children taught in schools these days?  I receive emails saying "Dear Gill, Hope your well"  I delete them without answering, such is my disdain for all things incorrect.  If I ever make a spelling mistake because I'm rushing something, I go into a frenzy, trying to recall the email or scribble out a handwritten note.  And don't get me started on text speak and "have" "of" "there" "they're" "their" "too" "to" "two" et al.  I am driving myself round the bend! 

As someone responsible for the marketing of this firm, I go over everything with a fine toothcomb and I go into meltdown if something isn't quite right.  Is it important or am I just being a pedant?   Personally, I think it IS important and I don't believe we should settle for poor English skills.   I've seen job applications land on my desk with such poor English that I actually feel like contacting the applicants and telling them how poor it looks.  Surely if you are looking for work in a profession like ours, your English has to be up there?? 

Right, I'm off to put my application in to join the apostrophe society - and yes, such a thing does exist.  I am issuing a joint application for the Ralli team. 

 

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Comment by Gillian Nuttall on June 26, 2013 at 11:00

Algebra - yes.  The pointless practice of mixing up numbers and letters and expecting a child to make sense of it.  For example: xy2747756 + bh4599lmb = 4,00000003.  No it doesn't, it can't ever.  Numbers are numbers and letters are letters - never should the two be confused.  

Comment by Chris Vigar on June 26, 2013 at 10:56
alegebra?
Comment by Gillian Nuttall on June 26, 2013 at 8:36

Got to love that kind of thing.  Very funny.  I remember a long time ago working for a lawyer (who is now quite a high profile character) and this person lost his rag with the other side on a case and simply sent a letter that said "Dear Sirs, Thank you for your letter.  See you in court". 

Comment by David Gilroy on June 26, 2013 at 8:24

Yair, that is just BRILLIANT...made my day and it's only 8:24!

Comment by Yair Cohen on June 26, 2013 at 2:32

You must read the response to a cease and desist letter by  New Jersey attorney Stephen B. Kaplitt — formerly of Weil Gotshal, Cadwalader, the U.S. State Department, and Beacon Financial.

http://abovethelaw.com/2013/06/how-to-write-a-great-response-to-a-c...

Comment by Gillian Nuttall on June 25, 2013 at 11:10

Mmmm - try "to" versus try "and" - not sure!  I suppose it doesn't really matter, either would work and the reader understands perfectly what you are saying.  Richard, stop trying to muddy an already very cloudy pool of water!

I think maybe working in law for such a long time has made a difference to me.  I've never been one to use complicated legalese but I have always tried to write in a way that can be understood and for when I am blogging and ranting, in an entertaining way (she says....)

I think my writing is probably better than my speaking, I speak very fast, swear too much and my Northern accent is sometimes a bit too Northern for some people...


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Comment by Richard Pettet on June 25, 2013 at 11:02

Would it not be 'I try to not write as I speak'? :-)

Gill might put me in my place here ...

Regs (sic) Rich

Comment by David Gilroy on June 25, 2013 at 10:50

+1 for text speak.  +1 for my initial education not being "all that".  I was brought up in the 60s/70s (showing his age). 

For me I try and NOT write as I speak, either in length or tone.....my speaking is MUCH better than my writing.

Having been around the "online world" since 1992 and my time at CompuServe (anyone remember their CompuServe ID?) I guess I've adapted my writing over time with respect (see, not wrt) to brevity etc. 

Each to their own I guess.

Regs....David.

P.S. I'm going to try and use "incandescent" in an email today ;-)

Comment by Gillian Nuttall on June 25, 2013 at 9:51

Incandescent is such a good word, isn't it?   :)

I guess I tend to write pretty much in the same way that I speak.  So I wouldn't say to someone "Oh, when you see David, give him my regs", I'd say regards.  You have to remember I was brought up in the 1970s and whilst my education wasn't all that, I was taught English in quite a barbaric way - I was given a crack every time I got something wrong!  So when I see things that I'd never have been allowed to do in an English lesson, I find it irks me.  And text speak?  Well, there are times I receive texts from people and I can hardly understand what is being said!  We have a lovely language, so intricate and nice.  I think we should be using it properly.

I agree on the scanning of your signature in an email, partly because someone could try and forge it!

Comment by David Gilroy on June 24, 2013 at 21:58

OK, I'll try and remember for next time I need to use and but would naturally use an ampersand ;-)

Oh, and I've been signing off emails and forum postings "Regs....David." for more than 20 years....yep, been using email that long and I've never had anyone be "incandescent" about it and it's not about "effort" it's more like my own "signature" rather than any lack of effort.  Note, I hate it when people put scanned "real" signatures in emails!

Regs....David.

P.S. No, I don't use that signoff in physical letters, I do indeed use "Regards" followed by my signature.

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